A comprehensive guide to choosing an international shipping company
If you've read my introductory post on this website (it's at this link if you're interested), you'll know that I am a well-seasoned international mover. I have moved back and forth between Ireland and the United States 4 times in the last decade or so. What can I say, I can't sit still 🙂
During those moves I've learned an awful lot about international shipping. I've painstakingly spent numerous hours calculating what is worth taking and what's not. I've spent countless days researching and selecting international moving companies (in Ireland they're called removal companies). I've shipped goods via regular mail. I've personally packed my goods on one side to be picked up by a moving company, and I've picked them up at the destination. I've researched insurance options, dealt with freight companies, and so much more. I think at this point, I've been through it all.
Being honest about it I think my most recent move taught me most of what I know on the topic. I'd have to put that down to being a parent now, as opposed to any other time I've moved. I've gone from just shoving everything I needed in to a suitcase to needing professionals to get me where I'm going.
I hope I can provide some guidance to you with the information below. Some of what I will share will hopefully help you avoid some of the mistakes I made along the way, save you time, and hopefully save you some money too. Let's get started...
Invest plenty of time up front
One of the best pieces of advice I can give you when planning your international move is not to waste any time in starting your search for a moving company. I began my hunt about 5 months before I left the U.S. and I wish I had even more time. I would've liked more time to correspond with more moving companies, research them a little better, and if possible, get references from past customers. These services are not cheap, and you really need to know you're getting the best deal, and most importantly, that your things will arrive on time, and in the condition you sent them.
If you've begun looking already, you'll probably have noticed that you didn't need to spend very much time searching before you found a long list of moving companies. However, you'll need to spend quite a bit more time before you will find a company who you think you can trust your life’s belongings with. There are literally hundreds of companies who operate as moving pros, and they’ll all be very happy to take your money. Whether they'll actually provide a satisfactory service or not is another thing. Giving yourself plenty of time will help you weed out the companies you don't think will fit your needs.
Get a personal recommendation
If you can get a personal recommendation from someone you trust who has previously moved internationally, then this might be one of the best options available to you. A lot of moving companies thrive off word-of-mouth business, so they'll go out of their way to make sure they have happy customers. Receiving a personal recommendation is great, but I would suggest considering the following:
- Did the person who recommended this company to you move to the same place as you are? If not, then be prepared for some differences in the service you experience. Moving companies have contacts in different countries/cities, and who they work with may impact the quality (and price) of service they can give you.
- Does your friend have any vested interest in the moving company e.g. payment of any sort for referrals. It's ok if they do, but they should be transparent about it with you, and you should feel comfortable that they would still recommend the moving company even if money was not a factor.
A step by step guide to choosing an international shipping company
I’ll guide you through each step I took along the way to choosing a moving company now. I hope it flows well, and makes sense. Please let me know if I need to clarify anything. Also, towards the bottom of this article, there are a few more moving tips to consider, so be sure to read those too.
1. Decide what you are bringing
The very first thing that I would recommend that you do before contacting any moving company is figure out what you are going to be taking with you to your new country. To do this, I wrote down a list of everything in my home. I literally went room by room (wall to wall and ceiling to ceiling) around my home and categorized everything as follows: a) must-bring or b) would like to bring or c) leave behind. There were a variety of reasons why things didn't make it onto the must-bring list, for example it was cheaper to re-buy it in Ireland, it had no sentimental value, I hadn't used it (or even seen it) in years, etc. Choosing which category you would put your own things into is a very personal decision, so I'll leave you to it. However if you want to follow a similar method I've created a simple download sheet for you (it's in PDF format). Feel free to use it how you like. You can grab it at this link.
As you can imagine my list was long. Very long. I did group certain things as one item on the list e.g. picture frames, silverware, computers, but the list was still very extensive.
Next to each item on the list I put a check-mark in one of the 3 columns indicating whether this was a must bring, like to bring or leave behind, item. Of utmost importance was the next exercise: reviewing the list with other's in the household. In my case, I sat down with my wife and we reviewed it together. It would be a terrible shame to throw away, donate, or sell anything that is on your leave behind list, but is on your moving partner's must bring list. My wife and I spent many hours reviewing our list, and it was almost like a negotiation activity. Things that I thought we could do without, my wife wanted to bring, and vice-versa. We finally had a list we were both happy with, but re-visited it after a few days to make sure we hadn't changed our mind about anything.
2. Calculate the cubic footage of your items
This is an extremely difficult thing to do, but something that your moving costs will heavily depend on. You need to do your best to come up with a size estimate (in cubic feet) before you contact the moving company, or at least have some sort of an idea of how big your shipment will be. The reason I say it's so difficult is because if you are shipping your household goods, there's a strong chance that you've never packaged them all together in this way before, and you are probably not going to do it before you look for shipping quotes. After all, you'll probably need your things for the next few months before you move. But even so, you'll need a number.
Calculating the cubic size of your furniture won't be difficult. As an example, to measure the cubic feet of a piece of furniture, multiply the height by width by length (in feet). However, figuring out what size all your regular household items will be is not an easy task. In my case I basically took a guess at how many boxes I would need to fit everything. The boxes were 4.5 cubic feet each, and to tell you the truth, my initial guess for how many of those I needed, was about half of what I ended up using! My suggestion is build some wiggle room into your estimate.
3. LCL vs FCL
If you've started browsing shipping websites you're probably familiar with the following terminology: LCL and FCL.
FCL is an acronym for Full Container Load, which, in lay mans terms, means you will have exclusive use of a shipping container for your goods. The standard sizes for ocean freight containers are 20' x 8' x 8' 6" and 40' x 8' x 8' 6". Based on your estimated cubic footage you'll be able to decide which one you'll need.
LCL is an acronym for Less than Container Load. What this means for you, is that your things will be packaged (most likely on a pallet) and sent overseas in a shared container. Basically, your things will be put into a container along with the personal items of other movers, or commercial products being sent overseas. If you don't have a lot of items to ship, then LCL might be right for you. Keep in mind though, that the container your items are in might make multiple stops before it arrives at your destination. It is also likely that your things will be loaded and unloaded more than once, placed into new containers on different ships, and might take quite some time to get to you. I have used LCL shipping in the past, and it took 9 (yes nine!) weeks to go from Los Angeles to Cork. Of course I was quoted a much shorter amount of time than this (4-6 weeks), but looking back on it, I think that was just a ploy to get me to sign on the dotted line.
4. Get like for like quotes
Be very sure of what you want to send, and how you want to send it, when you are researching quotes. Aside from choosing between LCL and FCL, you will have a wide array of options available to you. You might be able to find shipping quotes for door to door, port to door, door to port, and port to port. When I say compare like for like, I'm not just referring to which of those options you want to go with. For example, if you receive 2 door to door quotes, compare what exactly is being offered: e.g. included insurance, additional insurance rates, if packing is included, length of time it will take, etc.
5. Who to contact
There are international moving quote websites that you can go to, enter your details and wait for responses. You can expect to receive multiple quotes/calls/emails, within a day or 2, from various moving companies. I think you'll be amazed at the price variations that you'll see. I think a lot of that variation is a result of who your mover works with in your area and the area you are moving to. If the company does a lot of business in your area, you might get a better deal. Same goes for where you're shipping your items to. I would begin by trying out some of these websites, but don't be afraid to quickly discard some of the results you get. From the emails and calls I've received using this method, some of the companies seem very professional and thorough. I think many do have a good understanding that people who move internationally have a lot of emotion attached to their personal belongings, unlike a company that is just shipping a product overseas for commercial purposes. Take the time to talk with the people at these companies, but keep in mind that this is a very competitive field. If you don't like one, you can quickly move on to the next.
You could also go direct to any one of many international shipping companies. A quick Google search on the topic will throw back many results. You'll notice too that there are a lot of companies advertising on Google for this service. It's highly lucrative, and they are paying a lot of money for those ads. They really do want your business, so if you have a chance to negotiate let them know you can move along if their price/service isn't to your liking.
6. Making the choice
I went with my gut feeling for my shipping service. I can't say I was overly pleased, but I wasn't too disappointed either. I expected everything to arrive, which it did, but there were a couple of breakages, which are somewhat understandable. I guess the thing that irked me the most was the 9 week delay from pickup to drop off. As mentioned above I was advised it would take 4-6 weeks.
I would urge you to consider the following when choosing your international moving service:
Price - cheapest most certainly isn't always best, but that's not to say that most expensive is either. Find the service that fits your budget, but also your needs.
Negotiate - Remember the price might be negotiable. Or maybe you can get them to throw in additional services at no extra cost (insurance, packing, pick up etc)
Professionalism - if the staff at the company aren't courteous and polite, and don't have the answers to your questions, then I would move on to the next option.
Insurance - be sure you understand the insurance options. I've learned that for goods shipped any way other than door to door that you are only covered if the load is a complete loss e.g. falls off the ship, fire damaged, etc. So, if your fancy silverware set goes missing and you didn’t go with door to door service, it's tough luck! Ask the shipper for details, and have them explain exactly what is covered, and under what circumstances.
Reviews - are there customer reviews/testimonials available? If so, do they seem real? Read them, but, unless they are all bad, keep in mind that everyone can have a bad day at the office.
Moving scams - Yes, unfortunately, moving is not exempt from the mean folk out there who want to capitalize illegally somehow. Be on the lookout for anything suspicious. movingscam.com is worth a quick browse.
Scare tactics - one company that I had been in touch with emailed me almost weekly for months telling me that there was "a General Rate Increase to take effect" shortly, and I should "lock in the rate now". This struck me as too pushy (and possibly fake), and I stayed clear of them for this. You'll also find companies contacting you asking to see competitor offers, which they'll match or beat. While not exactly a scare tactic, you'll see how eager they are to get your business. Try to use this to your advantage.
Hidden fees - what can I say... just try to find them! Make sure you know exactly how much you are paying, and exactly what you are getting. And get it in writing.
Special items - if you are shipping anything unusual or special (cars, piano's, etc) try to find someone who has expertise in this area.
7. A few final tips
- There might be a delay between when you send your items and when you actually depart for your new home. You may have some extra items you want to ship last minute. I did, and to do so I used a combination of USPS (regular US mail) and extra airline baggage. Both are extremely expensive options in comparison to what it would cost to send the items via freight. Try to minimize the amount of things you’ll want to send just before you move as much as possible.
- If you live in a country where your donations are tax deductible, try to minimize your loses as much as possible by donating what you don't need, and be sure to save the donation receipts. You won't recoup the full value of your items, but every little counts.
- Ensure your mover is bonded/insured. In the United States this should be by the Federal Maritime Commission (fmc.gov).
- International shipping quotes are given by volume not weight. The weight of your items should not matter. Two things to consider: First, if you receive a weight-based quote, question it or move on. Second, look up some packing tips for international moving. You don’t want any unused space, and you might want to make use of packing aids e.g. vacuum bags for duvets and other bulky textile items.
- Be aware of port fees in Ireland. Check are they included in your shipping contract/quote.
- When your goods arrive in Ireland they need to be cleared by Customs. For this you will need to complete a Transfer of Residence form (TOR). This is an application and declaration to the Irish government for exemption from import tax on your goods. I was unaware of this process and the associated fees (maybe the moving company should’ve known and told me), until my things had arrived in Ireland. I paid 130 Euro for them to be cleared (split as follows: 65 agency fee and 65 customs clearance fee). You will also need to provide proof that you are taking up residence in Ireland, proof you were living abroad, and a list of the goods. I was also asked for a PPS number (Irish version of a social security number).
If you have information that can improve this article, or expand on it, please add a comment below.
Best of luck with your move!
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I received a message today from Tom Griffin of aim-moving.com, an Irish moving and relocation company. He brought up a worthy option to consider when choosing your international moving service. Here’s an excerpt from his email:
I am moving from Boston to N. Ireland and am so glad that I read this article. I was quoted $22,000 for two thirds of a 40ft container. I have learned so much here and feel equipped to challenge the “based on weight” quotes which might I add,change frequently on the day of departure. I have read reviews were the initial weight estimate doubled on the moving day – scandalous practice! I am currently dealing with Astro International who provide quotes based on volume. This system seems much more honest and easier for the client to calculate. I would love to hear from anyone that has used this company.
Teresa
Wow! 22k! Really? How can they possibly come up with a number like that?
Definitely skip the weight-based quotes. When shipping my freight overseas, it shouldn’t matter what it ways, just it’s volume.
Sorry, haven’t heard of Astro.
I’m going to share what I was quoted. This is from New York to Dublin. Let me know if you want more info.
Cost – $1,115.00
The service is based upon the shipment of 100 cubic foot household goods (minimum charge), door to door service, including; pickup of boxes, loading, labeling, inventory, sea freight, customs clearance, terminal handling charges (origin/ destination), port charges, delivery to residence, unloading, and placement within choice of room.
Shipping Process
The whole process takes approx 8 weeks from door to door
Advantage
The shipment of household goods to Ireland is a straight forward process. As a European working and living in the US I have over 12 years of experience handling shipments both to and from Ireland and Europe.
What you need to check for on other quotes
The most important bit of advice is to make sure all quotes include Destination Terminal handling charges (DTHC) / Destination Port Charges – unfortunately a lot of our competitors don’t include them, nor do they explain them. Eventually you will receive an additional invoice at the destination request payment. If you don’t pay the invoice, they won’t return your goods until you pay
Cubic volume / Weight
Make sure there isn’t a hidden fee for packing per box or per wrapped piece of furniture.
Ensure they are a FIDI member
Insurance:
On the quotation it offers 3 options of insurance (just above services included)
Option 1 – Total loss only – which is charged @ 2% of the value of goods you declare
Option 2 – All risks damages, fire, theft and loss – which is charged @ 2.5% of the value of goods you declare ($500 deductible)
Option 3 – All risks damages, fire, theft and loss – which is charged @ 3.5% of the value of goods you declare ($0 deductible)
Option 2 & 3 are the same policy with different % and deductibles.
I have attached an application form.
Payment terms
Payment is only required after the collection.
You can pay via 3 methods.
Check from USA bank account
Wire / Transfer – bank details will be on the invoice
If you want to use credit card, you can pay via our online payments. However this is the worst method of payment, you will incur a 4.65% surcharge
Booking
To secure our service, I need you to complete the booking online.
We don’t require a deposit.
If you want to make the booking, please click on the link below and follow the 3 easy steps and confirm the booking.
FYI, the quote was from Schumacher Cargo Logistics.
That was cost for entire shipping?? That company quoted me an outrageous price for shipping SF-dub $13k
Janey, I am looking for a shipper also out of Oakland, final destination Cork. Who did you ultimately go with and did you like them? I’d looking for door to door service. Any information/recommendations would be of great help.
HI Teresa,
Would you recommend Astro?I am thinking of using them to ship from Boston to Cork.
James
I used Astro from Boston to limerick it was in late 2016 cost 4600 for 40 ft was about 4 weeks late
Throwing darts!
Very informative Kelsey; thank you so much for all the details. I have contracted Astro International; this is the only company I could find that offered a “full pack service” or a “you pack, we load”. We are saving over $2000 by completing our own packing. I have been boxing items since March and storing them in a storage unit nearby. This allowed us to stage our home for sale and prompted us to prioritize on what we really wanted to bring back versus what was clutter.
This company are crating my husband’s motorbike for $750. They are charging by VOLUME, not weight – thank you Liam for this most important advice. Based on 2/3 of a 40 ft container, loading at this end, insurance and all port fees, we have been quoted just under $7000 which is excellent compared to Allied Vans or Mason ($22,000 for full service.) It really pays to shop around and be informed – most of which I learned here. Thanks again for creating this site Liam – INVALUABLE for relocators!
Teresa, thanks for posting this update. It really reaffirms exactly what I set out to do with this site – help people like you. So often, people are either ripped off for moving expenses, or just can’t find what they’re looking for with regard to visas, etc. With so many people chipping in with valuable information here, we are really able to help one another out 🙂
I too, packed in a similar fashion to you. Over time, and by doing it myself. It’s tough work, but for such huge savings it’s worth it.
Hello all. My name is Cherie and I’ll be moving to Cork in October with my husband, Lance (who is getting transferred there). I’m starting my research on how to get our stuff over there and wondering at what point it makes more sense to use the post office or a service like FedEx as opposed to a container shipping service. We really don’t have much stuff we’re taking (I’m thinking about 25 medium-sized boxes and three bicycles). It just seems like a shipping service would be so much less complicated. Thank you in advance for any experience you can provide.
We are currently in the process and not enjoying it… Started the shipping process after packing all boxes ourselves. We have been here since mid July and our boxes remain in the US… Using a company called Freight worldwide and are bogged down with them needing tariff codes and all sorts of commercial stuff even though is is a household move. I am an IRL native returning home.
Hi Sharon,
I had a similar experience. I couldn’t believe that after many weeks in Ireland, my things were still sitting in a warehouse in Los Angeles. The typical timeline (which often differs from what the company tells you) is 3-5 months. We found ourselves re-buying a lot of what we had shipped, because even though we knew our things would eventually arrive, we just couldn’t live without certain items.
I hope things speed up soon for you.
Liam
Hi All,
Happy New Year. I am in the process of moving back to Ireland and have received 2 quotes for a 20 ft container both within $150 of each other and both under $4,500 Door to Port (Dublin). International Shipping and Lynch Shipping. Does anyone have any comments, preferences?
I am also taking my dog but have been told by the airline Cargo people that i can only book him 2 weeks before departure. Has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks
Kevin
Happy New Year, Kevin.
Thanks for the shipping costs reference point. It’s a good guide for others.
Regarding the dog, that’s pretty normal that they would tell you that you can’t book them in until a few days before. I don’t know why that is, but I experienced it each time I flew with my dogs. It’s a little stressful really, because you most likely want to book your own flight much further in advance.
Hi Kevin
Did you make the move back already and which shipping company did you pick?
If Lynch Shipping was based out of Queens, NYC – my husband worked for them over 30 years ago when he was in Woodside for a year. Never been near them since but at the time they appeared to handle large moves. Curious who you went with.
We are aiming to move August and are starting to call around. Was your quote for full service or were you packing and loading?
Thanks
Pauline
Hi
I have just started the process of finding an international shipper/mover to move our household stuff from Boulder (near Denver) Colorado to either Cork or Kilkenny in early spring 2021. My estimate is that it will fit into a 20′ container and from what I can tell FCL is best to minimize the handling risk of LCL.
My preference would be to purchase a container so that we can load it ourselves and have the loaded container dropped at our location in Ireland which is out in the country. I can buy a container and have it delivered to my home in Boulder no problem but can’t find any “movers” who will deal with a loaded container. All of the offers so far have been based on using their container and loading it myself. The loading time is limited to 2h before a $85/h surcharge kicks in AND requires loading into the container sitting on the trailer – not the best for loading a piano! Alternatively, and most expensive, is to have the moving company load the container.
The issue seems to be the loading of the full container onto the trailer that will transport it to the shipping port or at least to a container yard for transfer to a haulage trailer to take it cross country to the docks. Same issue at the other end where the container will need to be transferred from the trailer to the ground.
The reason for using my own container is lack of storage capacity at the drop off in Ireland which is solved by keeping the contents in the container until we are able to get that sorted. This prevents us from using a typical moving company who expect to unload the contents at the destination. One solution, if we went with the moving company container option, would be to get the container unloaded into a storage unit. That adds another layer of complication but should be possible to organise if the moving company were willing.
I would welcome any suggestions on how to ship my own container and any companies that can handle this type of move.
Thanks,
John
Hi John,
Might have better luck getting input by posting this in the forum. There’s a blue ‘add topic’ button near the top of this page if you’re interested https://irelandmoveclub.com/community/ireland-move-club-members-forum/