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Liam Walsh
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14/02/2017 2:04 am  

Hi, I just discovered this forum and I am really encouraged by everyones stories. I am an Irish man living in the US and planning on marrying my american girlfriend (soon to be fiance). We have both discussed the possibility of relocating to Ireland permanently and may do so in the next year or two. What I am curious about is, when presenting proof of address, would a simple mobile phone bill suffice? We are likely to be pretty skint initially so staying with my family would be sounder financially for the first few months than renting somewhere. Any help will be appreciated.

Liam


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14/02/2017 4:36 am  

Hi Liam, and welcome to the site ūüôā

In a couple of years time the requirements may be different, so it's hard to give you answer for then. However I have heard of situations where mobile phone bills don't work as proof of address. e.g. when applying for a mortgage. I think it's due to the fact that a mobile phone bill doesnt prove a connection to the house unlike a mortgage statements, electric bill or lease agreement.
I'd suggest getting yer names on a household bill if you can. Even if temporarily.

Check out the following info for all the official details.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000024

Liam

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Jo McDonald
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28/02/2017 8:07 am  

Hi - found you on a google search. Any assistance greatly appreciated. 

My husband of 3 years and I want to move to ireland for about 6 months - 1 year. My husband is a kiwi. Would be great if he could work while we are there. I am Irish and we have a son with an irish passport.

He was deported back in 2004 when he was a backpacker. He has sent countless letters to ireland to get his deportation revoked since and has never had a reply. they have no email address or phone number! Its so frustrating. 

We have been back to ireland twice on holiday and he has never had any issues at passport control.

From reading various questions on this forum we thought we might go to Ireland and get the 90 day visa without mentioning our intention of staying and then go the garda station for the Stamp 4.  

Does anyone know if a deportation notice is automatically revoked after a certain amount of time or if the garda have any way of finding out he has one?

Thanks in advance.

Jo


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Liam
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01/03/2017 12:03 am  

Hi Jo

Maybe the repatriation division of the INIS are the right people to contact.  http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Repatriation

Wouldn't a deportation order have an expiration on it? Does he have whatever paperwork was given at the time? If you can't get answers from the INIS or the GNIB, I'd suggest contacting a solicitor in Ireland.

Best of luck with it!

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Jo McDonald
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02/03/2017 6:33 pm  

Thanks for the reply Liam. The only way to get the deportation notice revoked is to write to the repatriation office in Dublin, Which we have done - 4 times. Not once have we had a reply. Really bizarre situation. So i think we may go down the solicitor route as we have booked our flights and arrive in Ireland in June 


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leticia siqueira
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05/03/2017 11:15 pm  

Hello, my name is Leticia, I am brazilian and my irish national partner and I have decided to move to Ireland on a permanent basis. We are living in Brazil at the moment and I would like to ask if the process for getting a stamp 4 is the same for us as we have a civil partnership we attained in Brazil. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 


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Liam
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13/03/2017 11:48 pm  

Leticia,

I checked each of the civil partnership pdfs on the following page, and Brazil was not in them, only for marriage. You may want to check again, and/or contact someone there.

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Civil%20Partnership

Let us know what you find. 

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leticia siqueira
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14/03/2017 1:33 am  

Hello Liam, 

Thank you for your reply.

I was reading the link you sent me and I understood that the PDFs are about same sex foreign relationships. Before 2015, Ireland didn't accept same sex marriage. The years that the documents were published, lists the countries that already accepted same sex marriage at the time. However I will ring them anyway just to make sure. Thank for your information. 


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Yvonne Patton
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22/03/2017 4:39 pm  

Hello,

I am planning on moving to Ireland this summer.  I have been looking to purchase a house for my daughter and myself. 

I am an American, was married to an Irish citizen, and we have a daughter who is now 15. 

My husband passed away and he was laid to rest in his hometown in Donegal with his parents.  We were planning on moving and were looking at houses when he passed.  We make the trip once a year to visit his gravesite and have a chat.  We spent a lot on a holiday home so we can stay about 4 to 5 weeks every year visiting friends, sometimes visiting another country.  We hate leaving to come back to the U.S. 

I decided last year to save and buy us a home.  My daughter wants to go to university there in 2020.  I am paying cash for a home so there will be no mortgage payments. 

I know as a widow of an Irish citizen and mother also, (my daughter does have her Irish passport) I can probably get a Stamp 4 in my passport. 

I guess my question is, do I fill out the EU1 form after arriving into my new home, even though I will be going back and forth packing up our house here and my daughter finishing school here in the U.S. 

I thought I read somewhere all I had to do was go to the garda station every 3 months and renew my permission to remain but I was free to travel back to the U.S. when I needed to. 

I know my situation is different being a widow, but if anyone knows anything that would helpful, I would certainly appreciate it.  Thanks.


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Liam
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23/03/2017 4:27 pm  

Hi Yvonne,

At the point that you want to stay in Ireland for longer than the allowed 90 days as a visitor, that's when you will want to apply for a Stamp 4. In my opinion, you should do it sooner rather than later into that 90 days. Obviously you will need to have the evidence required, address etc, but the sooner you take care of it, the better.

The length of validity may be different from case to case, but in some cases, readers here have said theirs was good for up to one year. See here

I hope this helps. Best of luck, and feel free to ask other questions as they come up.

Liam 

 

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